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J.B.
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The goal is to stop people going into a restricted area. There are many ways to do this without hurting anyone but the bollard system is not one of them as proven by the videos.

Yes, the people were stupid enough to deserve what they got but that doesn't mean that the department of bus lane management isn't way out of line here. They're not protecting military secrets or something.
J.B.
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I don't buy it. If warning and visibility were sufficient there wouldn't be so many incidents. Where are the videos of people crashing into regular gates? (yes, I know there's one in this thread but that one is well, err different)
Bluebird B B
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Quote from MAGGOT :A lot of new-ish cars will only start in 'P' (Park) and when the brake pedal is pressed. More idiot-proofing, I guess.

Only experienced this in a renault auytomatic. Glad it was not my own car, not because of the safety mechanism, but the engine acted like it was already worn out with only 38000km driven. Oil consumption, loss of engine power(well the little amount it had, became even less), electronic failures of the computer. I did like the programming of the auto-box, felt like driving as someone is manually shifting the gears, reacting very well to heavy braking, accalaration etc.

But safety switch, never heard of it or saw it on cars with manual gear-boxes.
Bluebird B B
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"There is no way, other than audibly and visually to know that the tire is locked up. Yes, the car will react, but since the best we have is ffb through the wheel...unless you have a simulator at home...and to visually react, and adjust the brake pedal. At that point, you've already locked up the brakes for a good amount of time, and probably already need to turn in."

Well with my rather simpel controller i don' t have trouble to figure out wheter i lock up or not. I can choose., lock both front, right front, or left front if i want to. But normally i never want to lock tyres ofcourse.

But i' m glad some agree, especially if an important braking point is full of bumps like on as national reversed just before the very tight lefthander. People just adjust brakes so they can hit brakes 100% making there brake distance very short with the 'abs' setting. Also on south city tracks, such settings gives sometimes a unrealistic advantage and a very digital racing experience, braking point is always identical, tyre temps or setup will hardly effect braking points with the 'abs' settings.

I will be waiting for the next updates :boing: and hope max brake force will have a lot higher minimum value or can' t be changed at all. For example, brake force of fo8 locked at max of 1600nm per wheel. Will create nightmares for some drivers though Who are not used to controlling the brake pedal.
J.B.
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I don't care if the guys are idiots that harm the gene pool, I care that the equivalent of a metal traffic warden has the right to injure people. Imagine the situation was that a guy drives through into the restricted area and is then stopped by the police. Would the policeman be allowed to smack him in the face with a baseball bat and then move on to destroying the car?

And yeah, so the bollards stop moving after they have totalled the car. My point was that they shouldn't extract if it's not safe to do so. I Didn't say anything about retracting every time a car comes close. Nobody would accelerate into those things once they are fully extended and visible.
J.B.
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The requirements are way over the top. Michael Schumacher was 19 when he ran his first season in car racing. And 50 push ups in a minute would disqualify many a professional racing driver.
J.B.
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No matter how stupid people are, how on earth can a traffic control department be given the right to hurt people? Not even police are allowed to do that. The bollards should be programmed to not lift when something is on top of it. Which it seems is even written in law: http://www.manchestereveningne ... er_needing_treatment.html

Scumbags.
J.B.
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Quote from DeKo :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... e5vOA&feature=related
Nobody posted that yet?

WTH is going on here? Keeping people off bus lanes is now important enough to give the powers that be the right to punish people by bodily harm? One car had kids in the back and one driver smashed the windscreen with his skull. What country is this? Looks like England?
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J.B.
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Quote from Rooble :You've obviously not had experience with C-Media drivers then!

No way can they compete with all the problems I've seen over the years with GPU drivers. I mean the mere fact that there are whole communities on the web that are based on waiting for new driver releases should speak for itself. And don't even get me started on Avivo, Purevideo and other lies, there are 138 page long threads just about getting HD Disks to play.

But what can we expect when all the so called "Hardware" websites are run by mindless FPS gamers who think everything is great as long as they get their Crysis benchmark out of a card. [/rant]
J.B.
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Well then why don't ATI and Nvidia make installers that remove the old drivers properly? You install an official driver and it causes the same effects as if your hardware were overheating. Is a lower standard of driver development even possible?
J.B.
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If that's the case then AMD have really reached a new low in the already low standards of GPU driver quality.
J.B.
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J.B.
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Woah, this is really really useful, thx.

Some quick suggestions for usability, in case you haven't thought about it yet:

-remember the mpr folder location for future use
-display names without the colour coding characters
-add a "save and load in LFS" button (preferably in a new instance of LFS in case it is already open)

Good work.
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Max Brake force should be fixed
Bluebird B B
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Hallo,

I always wonder how people manage to race a car with brakes which would be banned on public road, because they can't lock the tyres. I nearly always have to put brakes on the setups before i start driving.

In real cars, espacially with downforce cars, the brakes have fixed strengt. You cannot set your brakes to be less powerfull, because irl you always want to have the strongest brakes possible. irl on race-cars you can set the amount of cooling of the brakes, but brake-heat is not yet in lfs. Also brake-balance an always be adjusted irl just as in lfs.

So a formule 1 car is not able to lock his tyres at topsppeed because the grip is too high but as speed goes down, the driver must lift the brake to avoid locking the tyres because downforce is also getting lower as speed decreases.

In lfs, people make sure they dont have to lift the pedal and set max brake power so low, the tyres will never or be very difficult to lock up. This takes away an important part of racing, being able to just not lock your tyres and in effect use a bad abs system.

My suggestion, make max brake force per wheel a fixed value for every car. Only brake-balance can be changed. Or at least increase the minimum values for brake power/wheel a lot please.
Bluebird B B
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Quote from Primoz :Lack of grip is not associated with lack of tread but because the tire is too hot and the rubber doesn't act optimally there. DOn't exactly know what happens to road tires, but racing tires start to blister and actually melt. I guess it's the same here. Less tread (when you just use it all up on the whole tire, uniformly) will even give you more grip - more surface area...

And learn to write in english dammit, your official language is not engrish.

Yes correct, but 10 degrees of higher temp will not rip apart your tyres. Offcourse grip will be a bit less but only a tiny bit. Overheat the tyre over 25 degrees, yes ok at such overheating soft racing tyres wil come apart.

High performance road-tyres perform very well in a very large range of tempatures, because they are designed to work in the rain with low tempatures, but alsof in very hot dry deserts.
The tyres on my own car have optimun grip from 15 degrees celcius all the way up to about 65 degrees. And also grip well all the way down to 1 degree celcius. Despite loaded to there max limit, because my car is rather heavy, i never managed to get the tyres over 55 degrees. EAlso when the wheels were totally wrong alligned with enormous amounts of toe-in front and rear(nearly full degree).

However, cheap "high" performance tyres do indeed act like the ones found in lfs. They get hot fast, stay hot, grip uh dont grip at all when cold or hot, wear out fast because the rubber is too soft. I once got such things with the car i bought, it was not a a performance car the engine had just 125hp, but even on that car the tyres were dangerously bad despite the manufacturer stated the tyres could handle max speeds of 240+ km/h.

So one could state, the tyres in lfs are simulating cheap high performance road tyres.

In lfs, its dead man racing with tyres at 10 degrees(if it would be possible) and you can burn your tyres within minutes with setups designed to keep the tempature down.

I just think tyres irl are more tolerant then in lfs. I think this is also true for the racing tyres.
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Bluebird B B
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Quote from DragonCommando :I talked to my boss about this today, He's worked for several auto makers, such as Honda. And he basicaly confermed my statement, the TCC WILL NOT lock when the TPS (throttle position sensor) reads 100%. For it to lock the VSS (vehicle speed sensor) would have to report a speed of 255mph.

Very nice,

However there are very different types of auto-boxes. Most of them using a torgue converter. Modern torgue converters will lock up at full throttle and sufficient revs of the engine. It feels like a clutch, speed going up and engine speed going down at about 3,5k rpm usually and stays locked. If you keep the pedal down, lock is also engaged in next gear. Good example is the auto-box from carisma 1.8 gdi which always lockup as soon as possible, but never when accalarating from low rpm's, simulating a real clutch.

However, i believe everyone wo says some torgue-converters do not work like that. Also electronically auto-boxes can even behave differently with only a software update.

Also there are auto-boxes which are really manual gearboxes with a robot attached to it. Also there are automatices with two clutches and robitic systems in it.

Anyway, who cares about how fast auto-box is, a real racing car has a manual gearbox, sequential or semi-automatic. And the last one is usually the best.(not voor some road going cars which an do gear-changes very sloowwww "cup of cofee" speed gear changes..)

One last note, real auto-boxes are not always much worse then the manual version. Usually this is in small cars with very small engines. Higer class cars with auto-boxes are usually 0,5 sec to one sec slower from 0km/h to 100km/h then manual. Boxes with two clutches are usually faster then a full manual gearbox.
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J.B.
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The problem with all these lane change rules (that were introduced because of Michael Schumacher after Spa '95) is that they don't state when you are allowed to move across the track. This means that waiting until someone is already slightly overlapping and then forcing him to either back off or hit the wall/grass is perfectly legitimate and is routinely practiced in all forms of real racing.

I think it's BS but what choice do you have you can get away with it? If I could make a rule it would simply be that any maneuver that forces a driver to get off the throttle (or off the track) while not yet in the normal braking zone is illegal. Easy to check with onboard camera and data recording.
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J.B.
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Doesn't matter, if you try to find a different reason for the problem you are wasting your valuable time. Been there.
J.B.
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The GPU is either overheating or broken, I've seen vary similar artifacts in those cases.
J.B.
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Quote from DeadWolfBones :Just a reminder:


He wants to see her again... *gasp

I lolled
Bluebird B B
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Quote from Impreza WRX :Vista sucks like a warp driven vaccum cleaner unless you have LOTS and I mean LOTS of RAM. I have it on Gigabyte-GSR and 1 GB of RAM is not enough for Vistra and gaming. Also, Vista slows down the hard drive to a grinding halt. I'm not giving up on x64 Windows XP just yet, and I can assure you every other game I have played (GT Legends, some top end Star Wars games, and the like) does not max out my system. TBH GT Legends looks awesome at 1280x1024 with everything turned on and up to the limit, and still pulling 75 FPS (Vsync).

Weird,
Vista 64 bits is running very wel here.
I must admit, a little bit more ram, faster cpu and faster graphics card.

Vista needs 4Gbyte to run very well and memory is currently very cheap...
Also remember to turn off al unwanted nice gimmicks microsoft has build into vista which you really dont need..
J.B.
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Planet Terror is pretty neat. Death Proof is one of the worst films I've ever seen. Whatever happened to the Tarantino of Resevoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown? Back then the dialogs were witty and interesting, in DP and in KB they just annoy the s*** out of me, like a cheap imitation.

But what I'm really looking forward to now is of course is the full version of this guy!
Bluebird B B
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" should note that the LFS road tyres are softer than the sort of tyres most of us use on our cars. Just look at the grip they provide. Road supers give well over 1g in a corner, something most "shopping car" tyres will never give.

So don't think of Road supers and normals as direct link to RL road tyres"

High performance tyres on high performance road cars do give very good grip and handling. subary impreza' s and mitsibishi lancer evo' s are very good examples.

Also overheated tyres irl grip better then in lfs. Also shown in the drift movie. Also note in the a "get away from stockholm movie" a tuned nsx(500+hp i guess) was doing a rather very long burn-out. Yet she could still drive away with some dificulty because she was nearly flooring it but accalaration was still good dispite rear tyres still smoking from the burnout. After less then a minute grip was back to normal.
Very unlike how tyres in lfs behave...
It shouldnt be too difficult to have a fix to make grip loss severe when tyres are overheated or below optimum tempature.

Also very odd.. people keep on defending flaws in lfs and totally denying, refusing to believe real world examples. Why is that?

Lfs is very good, but not perfect, is there something wrong about not being perfect?
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Bluebird B B
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Quote from Stigpt :Should LFS have a third tin-top class - a kind of super-GTR, on the molds of GT2 (600+hp tintops, rearwheel drive) - I find the GTRs realy nice, but even bigger engines would be great - just 490hp, 3liter engines... I want the huge v10s with 700, 800 hp!

I agree 100%
The current gtr' s are really slow compared to "le mans class" gtr' s. Also the current gtr' s feel very heavy with handling as if they are over 1500kg.

super gtr' s spec examples:
Porsche RS Spyder LM-P2 class, 500HP and empty weight of about 780kg's. Will probably be very close to FO8

Or Dome S101, 4 liter V10 600-650hp (restricted) 900Kg empty weight. probably faster then FO8, but not on small twisty tracks , i guess...
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J.B.
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Never heard of Toyota interest in DTM. Fake bodykit or something?
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